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	<title>Comments on: Creed by Steve Turner</title>
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	<description>Where Faith, Opinion, Design and Technology Collide</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.pietyhilldesign.com/blog/2007/03/09/creed-by-steve-turner/#comment-7024</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever noticed how certain movies become creeds for some ... Easy Rider, Breakfast at Tiffany's, A Clockwork Orange, Taxi Driver, etc. ... even when, on the surface, they are surely anti-creedal. But I guess that's why they call them cult films ... duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever noticed how certain movies become creeds for some &#8230; Easy Rider, Breakfast at Tiffany&#8217;s, A Clockwork Orange, Taxi Driver, etc. &#8230; even when, on the surface, they are surely anti-creedal. But I guess that&#8217;s why they call them cult films &#8230; duh.</p>
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		<title>By: theinquiringmind</title>
		<link>http://www.pietyhilldesign.com/blog/2007/03/09/creed-by-steve-turner/#comment-7017</link>
		<dc:creator>theinquiringmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone has a creed they live by, whether they will admit it or not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone has a creed they live by, whether they will admit it or not</p>
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		<title>By: sadie hartmann</title>
		<link>http://www.pietyhilldesign.com/blog/2007/03/09/creed-by-steve-turner/#comment-7015</link>
		<dc:creator>sadie hartmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was SO cool. Thank you for finding and sharing. You know, it's getting a little weird now. My personal quests for information and spiritual findings are starting to mesh well with what I am being taught by the elders at church and by Jerram Barrs and John Piper and my husband and Jesus...
It's getting surreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was SO cool. Thank you for finding and sharing. You know, it&#8217;s getting a little weird now. My personal quests for information and spiritual findings are starting to mesh well with what I am being taught by the elders at church and by Jerram Barrs and John Piper and my husband and Jesus&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s getting surreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo Salisbury</title>
		<link>http://www.pietyhilldesign.com/blog/2007/03/09/creed-by-steve-turner/#comment-7010</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo Salisbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Mike, thanks. I've often referred to myself as an "amateur sociologist." It's a hobby... I wonder at how people think, but not about math so much or music, although that's fun, too. I like to get to what makes people "tick" -- why they/we do what they/we do, especially in societies or groups. Perhaps it stems from my involvement and deliverance from the cult.

Mr. ZS, you may disagree with the modern or postmodern or secular humanist, but you may be quite compatible with the people I would consider the real source of humanism as we know it, Aquinas, then Erasmus, Thomas More, etc.. I know I do... I think there's a lot to be said for a solid classical education (although, that may due to the fact that I have no education, so &lt;strong&gt;any&lt;/strong&gt; education looks good). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Mike, thanks. I&#8217;ve often referred to myself as an &#8220;amateur sociologist.&#8221; It&#8217;s a hobby&#8230; I wonder at how people think, but not about math so much or music, although that&#8217;s fun, too. I like to get to what makes people &#8220;tick&#8221; &#8212; why they/we do what they/we do, especially in societies or groups. Perhaps it stems from my involvement and deliverance from the cult.</p>
<p>Mr. ZS, you may disagree with the modern or postmodern or secular humanist, but you may be quite compatible with the people I would consider the real source of humanism as we know it, Aquinas, then Erasmus, Thomas More, etc.. I know I do&#8230; I think there&#8217;s a lot to be said for a solid classical education (although, that may due to the fact that I have no education, so <strong>any</strong> education looks good).</p>
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		<title>By: The Zombieslayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Zombieslayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some scary stuff there.  I didn't realize how much I disagreed with the humanist until I read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some scary stuff there.  I didn&#8217;t realize how much I disagreed with the humanist until I read this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.pietyhilldesign.com/blog/2007/03/09/creed-by-steve-turner/#comment-7004</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bo ... now this is something a WISE sociologist might write if there were any. It's written so perceptively a student can say, "Oh, now I get it!" It's awesome writing and I enjoyed it more than the poem... 

"Often, we deny verities and creeds so vehemently that our persistent dissention becomes dogma which, ironically, congeals into a creed of our own — a positive confession of our contrarian attitude, systematizing the tenets of our rebellion against any form of alien correction or restraint that might hinder us in our pursuit of pleasure and self-interest. In the end, we may become the bigoted haters that so excited our righteous passions in the first place."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bo &#8230; now this is something a WISE sociologist might write if there were any. It&#8217;s written so perceptively a student can say, &#8220;Oh, now I get it!&#8221; It&#8217;s awesome writing and I enjoyed it more than the poem&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;Often, we deny verities and creeds so vehemently that our persistent dissention becomes dogma which, ironically, congeals into a creed of our own — a positive confession of our contrarian attitude, systematizing the tenets of our rebellion against any form of alien correction or restraint that might hinder us in our pursuit of pleasure and self-interest. In the end, we may become the bigoted haters that so excited our righteous passions in the first place.&#8221;</p>
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